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tomorrow's 44 soyuz relocation by

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commander padalka kornienko and kelly

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will be the first such relocation of a

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soyuz outside the international space

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station since november 1st of 2013 when

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the expedition 37 crew

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managed to do that they re they

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relocated their soyuz from the rasvit

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module to the zvezda

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and that crew commander fyodor

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yurchikhin and nasa astronaut karen

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nybergen um and luca parmitano for issa

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astronaut and you did this

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almost two years ago now so what do you

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remember from this relocation

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well i remember everything because it's

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uh it's very interesting uh

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it's very interesting operation

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for which we train a lot

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it's um

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it's done manually which means that for

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the first time

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uh in in my case in our in our

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expedition the commander myself took

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manual control of the spacecraft in

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order to

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detach it from the space station or

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undock and then fly it around manually

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again and do a manual docking and it's

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um

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it is intense because just like in a

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sci-fi movie you are um

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you are

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flying around a big space station which

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is actually flying already at uh 28 000

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kilometers an hour or seventy thousand

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four hundred miles an hour and then you

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are flying around it to go from one dock

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docking port to another so it is it is

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interesting it

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it's quick in a way compared to other

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operations but um but very intense so

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you say it's quick what does this day

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look like for the crew that's going into

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the soyuz from start to finish from the

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time you get in to the time you are

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docked and back in the international

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space station what is that day like so

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strangely enough the longest part of of

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the operations is making sure that

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everything that everything that you open

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and close is going to be completely

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sealed you don't want any surprise leaks

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once you unlock the

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the spacecraft both on the on the

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station side you don't want to lose

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atmosphere from the space station and on

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the on the spacecraft side so we do we

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do what that what is what what are

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called leak checks making sure that

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everything is perfectly sealed

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and then you also have to be ready to

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come back to earth because once the

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spacecraft is out if something goes

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wrong then the crew is coming down so

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you have to consider a day

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you know if as if you're not coming back

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to the space station and you may end up

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coming down to earth so all this

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preparation takes takes time

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in excess of an hour

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then after you undock the actual fly

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around is probably only between 15 and

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20 minutes it depends on on the

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commander's technique

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or the pilot's technique really and and

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then the docking phase is another

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another five minutes or so once you're

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docked everything goes back to the same

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operations that you do on the on the

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very first time you dock

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so and not more leak checks making sure

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that now you haven't damaged the docking

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port then everything is perfectly sealed

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between the spacecraft the soyuz and the

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space station and then you can open the

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door again so all in all we are talking

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about

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um four hour procedure when you consider

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the normal delays and all the normal

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checks that you have to do and there's

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20 minutes of flight time so four hours

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and only 20 minutes you're actually

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outside the space station but what is

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that like for you obviously leaving i

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don't know if i want to say the comforts

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of the space station but you've been

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there now for a few months at this point

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so what was it like pulling away and

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thinking i might not be going back there

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if something goes wrong so for me it

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happened only about 10 days before

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coming back to earth so

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that the thought of having to leave in

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emergency was was not daunting because

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uh you know we we were towards the end

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of our mission we had completed all

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everything that we were going to do but

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at the same time of course you want you

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know you want to come back you want to

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continue helping with with your with

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your crew

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so you you just you want to you want to

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go back

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i can guarantee you that

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certainly we are not going to any

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emergency any any situation that is

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anomalous we are going to take it very

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seriously but at the same time we are

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going to make sure that we do everything

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we can to go back to the space station

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so it is the space station at the time

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is your home it's uh it's your it's your

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comfort you have your crew quarters

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which is your room with your things and

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you want to make sure that they come

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back with you at one point or another so

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certainly um

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you're you're focused on coming back to

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the space station so once you leave you

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get a good view of the outside of the

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space station do you get to see kind of

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different parts that you don't normally

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get to see

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absolutely um

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when you when you when you come in for

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the first time when you're docking

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you're soft you're focused on on the

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automatic operations and so your

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attention is really focused on the

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cameras and

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the screens that you have on the cockpit

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that you really don't have a lot of time

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to to look outside and and see what's

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happening and you you come in straight

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for your docking port so you don't do a

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fly around the space station you see

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um the the the structure and you see the

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direction that you're going you're

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coming in and you go straight for your

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docking port now for the first time

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uh once once the initial set the course

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is done you have a chance to look

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outside you're going to be looking even

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through the cameras and different parts

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of the space station uh and

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you know it's it's it's amazing how

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similar how accurate it is with the

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simulations that we do on the ground

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so talk a little bit about why why did

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why was it important for you to move the

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soyuz and why was it important for this

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crew tomorrow to move the soyuz it is

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extremely important for

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at least two reasons that i can think of

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the first reason is that in order to

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dock to the space station

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you have to

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move the whole space station in a

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position that will allow the docking for

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the soyuz now the soil is actually

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obviously smaller uh it has less fuel

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the space station though is much bigger

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you want to preserve that fuel so it's

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it's um it's energy and momentum uh

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management and also resource resource

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management so you want to put both the

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station and the and the soyuz that's

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coming in the best possible

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configuration to make the docking

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expeditious so since um the mission uh

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is coming up with uh my colleague andrus

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morgenstern and his two crew members

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they want to make that condition for

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docking the easiest possible bot for the

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station and uh and and um

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and and so they're going to free up a

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port they will they will make the

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docking conditions simpler

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for them that

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for them on the space station doing the

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fly around is already is a simple

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operation relatively simple operation

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because now the space station doesn't

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need to move which that's the space

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station keeps flying and it's in its

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orientation

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uh without any any loss of energy or

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resources and then you just use a very

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tiny bit of resources to move the the

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capsule from one docking port to the

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other and when i say a tiny bit of

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resources we are trained to do a docking

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using less than 10 kilograms of fuel oh

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wow well luca thank you so much for

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joining us to talk about the relocation

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of the soyuz uh once again this was luca

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parmitano an issa astronaut who was on

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the last relocation